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Bring me the little children

I don't know if the kids here in Ontario have sex ed in their schools and how comprehensive it is. Probably not, especially in the Catholic school system. But considering that CityTV plays movies that show boobies, perhaps the moral climate here is not quite as puritanical as in USA. In Finland things tend to be more European and sex ed is the norm starting from the fifth grade or so, although it is not quite as hilarious subject as it is depicted in Hollywood. One exception, though: I can still remember the group presentation projects in high school sex ed classes, especially the presentation about sexual perversions that was given by the boys who sit at the back of the class. (The high school sex ed teacher, the well-liked and popular phys ed coach, also explicitly recommended daily masturbation for all of us as a healthy way of sexual expression, but that's perhaps topic for another posting.)

Sex ed aside, I'm pretty sure that the local kids here don't have religion classes like we had, at least not in the public school system. If you are like 95% of the other Finnish kids who belong to the official state church, religious teaching is a compulsory subject. In the elementary school, the basic features of Christianity and Christian life are presented in an age-appropriate manner, and some heavily sanitized Bible stories are pretty much presented as fact. And yes, this includes the Creation story and the Flood. This is not a big deal, since these are just little kids and it's the religion class. I never heard one peep about these topics in history, geography or biology classes where sanity prevails.

One interesting cultural difference here is that in Finland these days, the official state church of Lutheranism is for all practical purposes a seriously leftist organization, as is evident from the social and other policies that it advocates. The word "tolerance" sure seems to be used a lot. The Church also organizes religious education summer camps for teens who are of 15 years of age or so, as is their traditional way to create good Christian citizen that dates back several centuries. Most teens actually happily go there, since these days such camps have a reputation of being somewhat like the Band Camp in the American Pie movies. Many a hymnal there has been found to contain a condom! First time away from home and parents in a summer camp setting is the time for experimentation with sex, drugs and rock'n'roll. Some world-weary pastor aided by a bunch of happy Ned Flanders -type 18-year-olds ("hey, let's all sit in a circle, play guitar and sing kumbaya") don't really have much power to stop the hormones, I guess.

(Myself, I never went to a camp but participated in a more traditional day school -type instruction. The instructors, a man and a woman who were both some kind of church workers, were pretty good and solid people and I have no complaints about it. I also remember the male instructor actually explicitly teaching that the Creation Story should be taken as an allegory, Adam being the first man in the human evolutionary chain to reach certain level of brain activity, self-awareness and the sense of right and wrong. This interpretation also handily solves the nagging problems such as where Cain's wife came from.)

In the junior high, church history and other such more advanced topics come in, and in high school, you get to learn some comparative religion presented in a neutral fashion, pretty much as if somebody took the most important parts of the Wikipedia page "List of Religions" and turned it into a high school course. Speaking of which, when I followed the links and read the pages for two hours or so, I think I learned more there than I learned during the whole high school religion classes. If I had a time machine, I would go back and give my younger self a painful spanking for being so damn inefficient.

I would actually claim that such religion classes are a net positive thing to have in school. Religion is a pretty big and important topic in how the world works, and educated people are supposed to understand the field in general and recognize the various cultural references that are based on religion and religious works. (Pop quiz: where does the camp-gothy expression "children of the night" originally come from?)

Until high school, every single religion teacher I had was a woman. This is not that surprising, since women are less reality-based and more emotional than men and hence tend to be more religious. (Men preach from the pulpits for historical reasons, but it's women who fill the benches, as anyone can see by visiting a service.) Some of these women were quite religious nutjobs, so all atheists reading this should note that the religion classes are actually a very efficient way to decrease general devotion in religion in students. Few things make anything lose its appeal as quickly as having the state force-feed it to people in as boring manner as possible. Although I do remember one teacher who had really great tits, making the boring subject that way much more palatable! Of course she was also a nutjob, but actually not in a bad manner. In fact, even as a teen atheist I found her brand of nutjobbery to be somewhat endearing. (Or maybe it was the tits.)

There is also possibility for some serious comedy here. For example, I remember the teacher in junior high who, in all apparent seriousness, explained that taking mind-altering drugs makes the person see directly into Hell. The same teacher also once made the mistake of playing a tape that explained how rock music is satanic, produced by some Pentecostal outfit. The tape was such a total hoot in a manner that I later learned to associate with Jack Chick tracts that pretty much every single week after that our class asked if we could hear the tape again, eventually making the teacher rather weary of the whole topic.

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Christians and Their God Awful Sense of Humour

One especially revealing fact, when comparing buddhist and zen people to the protestant christians is - literally - the divinely bad sense of humour the litter of christ have. How the lost sheep come and try pretend to be a good shepherd: They come off as pretentious. When you point it out to them, that you really know more about their religion than they do, and that you show they are lost in their own jungle of words, they lose their nerves and begin to shout how you are the devil etc. Even if you really wouldn't care to know any of it.

The thing that makes it really hard to not laugh at a christian is how they seem to have been reading that big book of theirs upside down all their lives. What makes it almost embarrasing is when you see a whole congregation doing the same thing.

One reason why the Gospel of Thomas has not been included into the bible is that it gives the show away too easily:

Gospel of Thomas

Having entertained myself with buddhist and zen literature (quite a treat if you enjoy wasting time) it is not that hard to understand what Jesus was really talking about. In general he talks about the same things as the buddhists do, although, the Middle Eastern culture probably was not too receptive to that kind of teaching. Bastards. See, they have no humour, see. No wonder the Jews had to put the guy to sleep. He was about to give away the game. In Gospel of Thomas it reads how Jesus said: "He who shall drink from my mouth shall become like me; I myself will become he, and the hidden thing shall be revealed to him." Sounds about as much a buddha as anyone else, my grocery store clerk included.

Too bad decent writing skills and logic was not among the strengths of the local people. Read _decent_. In his last days, as you can spell from the bible how, Jesus curses even Peter for not understanding a word he had said. Must have been quite frustrating. I always imagine how pissed off the guy must have been when he told the diciples to "go and fish a congregation", and when they really did: Just another show in, how they could misunderstand what his message was.

Now, what actually creates the humongously bad collective sense of humour in christians is this: When a devotee finally begins to unconsciously understand how much further his sense of humour should stretch and stretch before he can truly enter the inner Kindom of Heaven, he becomes afraid, and loses his faith. That someone could be such a hypocrite that he can't understand, how it all was made with all good in mind, and with love, and compassion. Must feel kind of cruel, too. To not be able to understand the meaning of God in the bible, and how his mercy is never left ungiven. Only a true hypocrite cannot stretch himself to accept it and forgive himself. When you hate yourself you show it to others by hating them. I got that from Reader's Digest, so beware.

A religious person once asked spitting to my face: "How long does it take to travel from hell to heaven?" I answered: "The trip from hell to heaven takes only as long as it takes to forgive oneself." Apparently he was still in the throes of his own insurgency.

Sometimes, I even feel that there should be a place to collect all these people. Some place, at least once a week, a moment of peace, when they are not around. A place where they would gather by their own will and stay the hell out of the way, at least a couple of forsaken hours. Please. I am asking nicely. Please!

To me bible, genesis and its stories do have a poignant message to them. It is just that the material has been written so poorly compared to the asian counterparts. When you consider a tribe that must survive in the early days of civilization, it must've been crucial to separate the husk from the seeds, and see who can be truly honest to themselves and thus to the present company, and who are just pissants ready to stab you in the back because they are afraid of their own shadow.

Hey, nothing wrong with a small mindfuck to check people out. Unfortunately as all things good go, there are always enough stupid people to spoil everything.

-=/ vince

85% belong to state church

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