Don't you dare judge us
First, of course we often try to downplay this but as everybody knows, a man's place in the social hierarchy is pretty much determined by the quality of women that he can sexually attract. We can debate the direction of the cause and effect, but the general principle should be pretty obvious to anybody with two working eyes. For example, Trish Wilson, while taking a break from begging money for her basic living expenses, explains this principle for the benefit of the slower readers in her post "The Losers At Stand Your Ground Can't Get Dates". Once again, as I so often like to quote, when chasing the rabbit, the hunter is blind to the mountains, losing the sight of the big picture for some trivial momentary gain. This is also a good reminder of what feminists really think of the loser males, making me a bit suspicious about their "patriarchy hurts men too" appeals to transfer power to feminists. Most gamma males should probably take their chances with the present system.
Speaking of losers, the post "Except for the Coke Habit, Mom, Everything is Fine" at the new but apparently very appropriately named PunkAssBlog provides one more data point to my observation that the grander the schemes for total reorganization of the whole society, the less ability there can generally be found to successfully manage even one's own life. Somebody else (I already forgot who, sorry about that) recently linked to Mark Goldblatt's opinion piece "Liberalism, on the Couch", in which he observes that
The first factor I’d suggest in the causal chain that leads liberals to their politics is abject failure. People who are frustrated by their lot in life are often drawn to liberal ideas because modern liberalism’s contempt for the free market jibes with their efforts to rationalize their disappointments. This thought was driven home for me last year at the Small Press Book Fair in Manhattan. As you climb the stairwell at the Small Press Center on West 44th Street, moving from small presses on the first floor, to even smaller presses on the balcony level, and then to presses-that-exist-only-to-publish-the-press-founder’s-screed upstairs, you move progressively leftwards. Talk to any author on the upper floors, and he’ll swear that he’s been driven to self-publish because he refused to sell out. He wouldn’t compromise his message for the sake of wealth and success, unlike fill-in-the-name-of-a-popular-writer. Corporate capitalism beats down the true visionary, he’ll tell you, and he’s no company hack. What greater proof of his bona fides than the fact that no mainstream publisher was interested in his work?
So
true, although I will again restate my objection of using the word
"liberal" to mean "leftist". These are two different things, and no
matter what the Americans say, I will never give up this linguistic
battle, dammit.
Many men are stuck to the lower rungs of
attractiveness so that women deem them defective. In the merciless
system of assortative mating, these men then have to settle for
undesirable pigs that no man who has an actual choice would ever stoop
down to. To maintain their face, some of these men try to tell us that
stooping low was actually their real preference all along! For a recent
example, see the article "Big love" in Salon.
What, this outfit still isn't bankrupt? You mean there still are
venture capitalists out there who believe that web magazines and online
advertising could possibly make money? Salon breaks its usability by
trying to make you watch ads, but heck, that's what tabbed browsing is
for.
For most men who can do no better than to marry an
overweight or an obese woman (and these days this numerically has to be
the majority of men in USA), this is one "choice" that they tend to
feel deep shame and disappointment for. Even the fat men are mostly
attracted to slender women (as is amply evidenced by their choices of
media and porn), further excaberating the problem. But very well, a
tiny majority of men might actually be fatty humpers in the sense that
they feel sexually attracted to fat women and would reject otherwise
similar slender women, given a free choice between the two. After all,
this wouldn't be the weirdest fetish that men can have. For example, I
once read that there is a small, about 2% minority of men who feel no
attraction to women at all, but consider other men to be sexy. Go figure.
So
there is a lot of aji and friction here for a smooth operator to
benefit from. As every profeminist man knows, there are few better ways
to establish your credentials and earn applause from feminists than
stating that you are attracted to all body types and that you believe
that fat women are beautiful. How very enlightened, especially since in
the modern leftist tradition, words are more important than actual
actions. Hey dude, don't hog all these fat chicks just for yourself,
the post "Loving large" at Feministe
and the commenters therein seem to be saying. The post then goes on to
criticize the "market theory" of sexual attraction, as summarized by
one commenter of the original article thusly:
Men obtain (customarily and usually) the most attractive woman that they can afford (what their income and net worth will attract). Women get the best (income and net worth) man that their looks will allow them to. This is true, most of the time. Sure, there are exceptions, but they are just that, exceptions.
It's hard to argue with this,
but I guess that feminists would have a big problem with this.
Feminists seem to have a more... romantic theory of attraction, so that
anybody can fall in love with anybody else pretty much randomly. I
disagree with this idea (but I will certainly agree with it the moment
that some supermodel marries a homeless midget), but if you really want
to have it this way, then I would certainly expect to never again read
one more complaint of how sitcoms in which a fat working class husband
has a hot slender wife are somehow "unrealistic". There are a lot more
fat working class schlubs out there than there are successful handsome
men, so even a very attractive woman would be more likely to end up
with the former type of man, yes?
And if attraction truly is
random with no observable trends or correlations, fat women would not
have to routinely write stuff such as
Dating when you’re fat is just fraught with little self-esteem landmines. I do much of my dating through online sites, and it was only recently that I ventured into specialized sites for (and, gah, I hate this term) BBWs. Prior to that, I’d been on sites like Nerve (before it changed its format and pricing structure and fell into suckitude) that feature all kinds of people. I went to the BBW sites mostly because I’d been getting so many hits from people who apparently had not read my ad and noticed that I checked “ample” or whatever to describe my body type. Granted, I didn’t have any full-body shots in my ad and my face is not a good indicator of the size of my ass, but you hope that someone who bothers to write a relatively thoughtful message to you referencing stuff that was actually in your ad bothered to read that part. It hurts to go through all that and see the shock and disgust in someone’s eyes when you show up for the meeting.
I figured I’d avoid that problem with the BBW-specific sites, but that just provided a home for the chubby chasers, and it just got exhausting going on dates with guys who swear that it’s a preference, la la, and have them make little comments or smack my ass in a proprietary way and realize that it’s more than a preference.
As I have noted a few times, it is funny
when a feminist makes herself unattractive to men, and then the men she
has to settle for confirm all her bad ideas about men. Was that extra
donut really worth it, fatty?
Now that we are in this general
topic of what people find attractive, I have occasionally wondered
whether there has ever been a study in which a representative sample of
women of the same age cohort of similar backgrounds (perhaps all women
who graduated the same year from some particular college) were somehow
ranked for their physical attractiveness at the time of graduation,
after which this attractiveness was correlated with their husbands'
current wealth and income. Such a study might yield interesting results
if it was ever executed. If I had to guess, I would guess, purely with
the stetson method and going with my gut feeling, is that this
correlation would be about 0.3 for the whole population, but much
higher in the elites.
Biting Beaver explains in her post "A rose by any other name"
what she expects of men. It is always good to see explicit demands
enumerated, and I wish this happened more often. The very first item in
this list tells us that
1. No means No: I take this one very literally. She says "No" you stop. Period. No begging, no harassing, no arguing, no guilt trips, no nothing. All attempts at sexual behaviors stop here, at this one little word. If the word "No" escapes her lips at any time during the activities it is YOUR cue to a full stop. No more "if you loved me you'd do x" No more excuses, no more bullshit. No means No. Get it? Got it? Good.
Get
that, guys? After the first "no", there is nothing else that you can do
than to back off forever. As the Dworkinites have been constantly
telling us, a woman's "yes" that was achieved by negotiation does not
really mean that she consented, since all women live under the threat
of patriarchal oppression and rape all the time. Fair enough, I can see
how you could make this argument, in a way analogous to the problems
that there are in people consenting business offers made by Tony
Soprano. But in that case, the leftists need to seriously start
following this same principle when it comes to the wallets of the
productive people. When the leftists keep begging and demanding more
handouts and wealth transfers, each "no" just makes them more eager in
their demands, instead of making them take a hint and back off.
Eventually the productives give in a little bit more, knowing full well
that they live under the implicit threat "If you don't give your money
up voluntarily, we will take it by force, oh yes, we have locked you
guys up in gulags before and will do it again" of the omnipresent
leftist privilege of violence
that leftists refuse to acknowledge. It's either that we give up the
money, or spend that same money on building defenses against the
unproductives.
(I have lost count of how many times the welfare
state is defended with the explicit argument that without it, the poor
would start robbing and killing the rich. Seeing that welfare state
hasn't existed for most of the written history, and that in the modern
world the countries with the least welfare tend to be growing the
fastest, it gets pretty hard to see why welfare would be "necessary" in
any meaningful objective sense of this word.)
Since women tend
to be net drains on the welfare system, they support it more than men.
Compared to having to find a good husband to support you, using the
welfare state as a virtual boyfriend is a much better deal for women
who don't feel like working, since the welfare state just gives them
money and never asks them for anything in return, unlike a husband.
Speaking of finding good husbands, having an excess of marriageable
males might initially sound like a paradise for women, since this way
women wouldn't have to settle for loser males but could laugh them off
as "fags". Unfortunately, the news that we keep hearing from India and
China (and the Middle East, where the exact same effect has been
achieved by polygamy instead of ultrasound) seem to be telling us that
this isn't exactly how it would go. The post "Tell it like it is" at Indian Writing
gives us a simple economic lesson of supply and demand and the
opportunities that lie therein. Ugh, put that in your peace pipe and
smoke it.
For almost half a century now, rock has been the official soundtrack of rebellion. (As Tommi
might casually deadpan it at this point, "Rock yeah.") This rebellion
and "breaking all the rules" is fun when you get to be the edgy rebel,
but it's not as much fun when you find yourself on the side of the
hegemony that is being rebelled against, as LonerGrrl has observed in her post "The sound of misogyny".
Apparently the white boys have now learned that putting bitches and hos
in their place can be used to sell records successfully to the seething
underclass and precarity who haven't historically put that much weight
on women's rights. So what, now you leftists suddenly think that
misogyny set to a catchy beat is a bad thing?
I recently noticed that one of the Charlie Brown made-for-television movies was titled "Lucy Must Be Traded, Charlie Brown", but I doubt that this film was about, uh, you know, sex trade. In "Congressman Accuses Germany of "Complicity in Promoting Sex Trafficking""
we learn that some Americans dislike the way prostitution and brothels
are legal in Germany, an issue that has again come up with that soccer
tournament that is going on there and all. As the demand tends to
create its own supply, women from poorer countries, mostly from the
East Europe, are brought in to fulfill those needs. It is pretty funny
to watch Western feminists squirming about this, as Vox Day has recently noticed in his posts "She will look beautiful in chains" and "The brothel or the burqah".
Since women need men as much as a fish needs a bicycle, by all means
let them sort out this problem themselves without the help of males.
Few
things especially are as funny as the feminist complaint that life is
bad for women who live in the former Soviet block. Excuse me, now who
do we get to thank for that misery? A feminist complaining about life
being bad in the socialist countries is just like the guy in that joke,
you know, the one who shot his parents and then pleaded mercy from the
court because he is an orphan. Of course, I can imagine how the
feminists reading this will now haughtily scoff at this and say that
the problem with Soviet Union was that it was ruled by men. If only the
feminists could run the socialist system, then it would be a paradise
and everybody would be happy under the loving gaze of Mother Sun.
As a staunch atheist, I tend to disagree vith Vox's
ultimate solutions to social problem even when I agree with his
observations about the existence of particular problems. Even so, I
can't deny that for the bottom 95% of the Bell Curve, some peaceful
form of mainstream Christianity might actually be the best way to keep
them in order and prevent them from rampaging. Hey, it worked for Leo
Strauss and his followers. I recently noticed that some feminists have
got their panties in a bunch for Raving Atheist's announcement in his post "More than words"
that neither Christ nor Christianity shall ever again be maligned on
his site. I think that somebody has jumped the gun here, since I have
myself seen enough of similar Swiftian parodies and declarations by RA
to guess what this one will soon be followed by.
By the way, it is especially humorous that PZ Myers
(whose basic schtick in the blogosphere is to comfort other leftists by
assuring them that genes and IQ are meaningless, in the spirit of
Stephen Jay Gould) and other leftists would have a problem with RA's
promise not to malign Christians any more, since in practice, they
already themselves follow this exact same principle when it comes to
Muslims! For example, see the post "Myers on the Muslim Caricatures"
where Ed Brayton calls Myers on this hypocrisy. Similarly, you can look
at even the angriest radical feminist website that is ready to jump on
Western men for even a slightest infraction against feminist ideals,
and find that outrage against Muslims who are objectively at least a
thousand time worse violators (there is a good reason why the last
week's Pride Week parade was organized in Toronto instead of Teheran)
there is in a rather short supply, except perhaps in the rare cases
when the situation can be somehow used to blame white men. Kettle,
please allow me to introduce black.
"And if attraction truly is random..."
'Evenly distributed' would probably be the idiom, although one should adjust preciseness to zir context and style of writing.
Posted by Anonymous | 2:55 PM
"Except for the coke habit, Mom, everything is fine"
Reminds me of the famous line:
"In other respects, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"
Peter
Iron Rails & Iron Weights
Posted by Anonymous | 3:24 PM
Regarding Straus, you might be interested in this, which questions the standard view of him as a right-winger and brings up the issue of religion (although the Jerusalem vs. Athens bit is fairly well known, at least by people who know about Straus)
Posted by tggp | 4:57 PM
Why do you torment yourself by reading so much of the feminist blogosphere? I used to read Feministe pretty regularly and comment now and then. However, that blog is so heavy on bile and unpleasantness and so light on rational argument, that I eventually decided it was pointless.
Posted by Otto Kerner | 1:34 AM
Looks like that hyperlink dissappeared
I don't like how the width of the comment field distorts things, so I'll break it into pieces that readers can reassemble.
http://www.nytimes.com/
2006/06/25/books/review/
25alter.html?
ex=1308888000&
en=ec27b59a728742bb
&ei=5090&partner=
rssuserland&emc=rss
Posted by tggp | 3:44 PM
I gather you're single...wow what a HUGE surprise. I guess by your philosophy you make peanuts and must be really ugly too.
Posted by Anonymous | 7:22 PM