Losers downstairs
No more sex for Noer. I wish there was a website where you could warn other women to keep away from men like Michael Noer. If this article gets around he may never have sex again, which would be for the best because he strikes me as someone who doesn't really value women.
in response to the
now-infamous silly Forbes article that adviced men not to marry "career
women" (who were rather strangely defined as women who work outside
home and make at least $30K a year) is also a good example of this.
When I read this comment, it almost seemed to me that the woman who
wrote it believes that women are sexual gatekeepers, and that women's
preferences are mutually highly correlated which naturally sorts all
men into a hierarchy of sexual desirability, after which simple
supply-and-demand analysis will reveal that the men in the bottom of
this hierarchy have to settle for either really unattractive loser
women or Rosie Palm.
But of course my impressions can't possibly
be true, since feminists have categorically thoroughly debunked both
the idea of women being sexual gatekeepers and the idea that women's
preferences in what they (just like men) look for in a partner are
highly correlated, leading to a market reality in human mating so that,
for example, the typical sitcom setup of a hot slender wife married to
a fat schlub husband would be extremely unrealistic in real life. Since
love cannot be examined in market terms but is airy and abstract so
that anybody could fall in love with anybody else because we all have
totally different personal preferences which "don't always correlate"
(to borrow the common humorous phrase), for any woman who thinks less
of Michael Noer because of what he wrote, there would be another woman
who thinks more of him because of what he wrote. Right?
Or
perhaps I have again misunderstood something. Either way, this general
discussion leads to something that I was casually wondering earlier
today as I was walking somewhere, so perhaps I can now make a blog post
about it. As I predicted in my post "So if you care to find me, look to the western sky",
about a hundred million young unmarried Third World women in their
Internet cafes will soon (if not already) be skyping and wannachatting
with young Western men en masse
in hopes that they would get to live in the rich fantasyland of America
and other rich Western countries that they have only seen depicted in
television shows such as Dallas.
So we can look forward to seeing a lot more weddings between Western
men and Third World women taking place within only a few years. This
should make at least the anti-racist community very happy, with men
giving up racism in their own lives in such an accepting way.
Despite
this, Western women and especially feminists don't particularly seem to
like the idea of the Western men marrying Third World women. I do have
problems with their arguments, though. First of all, haven't the
feminists been telling us for several decades now that a man should
always respect a woman's "no" so that if she rejects his amorous
advances, he shouldn't be a creep or a stalker but just move on and
never try to approach her again. (If only women were equally respectful
of men's "no" when men say that they don't want to use their bodies to
pay higher taxes to subsidize the various socialist utopias that women
so often come up with... hey, one can dream.) In this light, I find it
difficult to comprehend the feminist complaint about the Western men
who are losers and thus rejected by their fellow countrywomen giving up
the Western women and turning their eyes to the Third World. Wasn't
this exactly what these men were supposed to do, once they were rejected by the Western women? Just like Sigmund Freud, I remain utterly confused of "what women want".
(By
the way, for those women who say that these loser men should stop
approaching all women altogether and die alone in their loserdom, I
would like to remind you that there is a word that means a person who
believes that inferior people should have no right to try find
companionship or to breed.)
Every man already understands
perfectly that only a teeny-tiny minority of the three billion women on
Earth desire him sexually. (All right, if you want to nitpick, things
might be different for Brad Pitt and other doubleplusalphas at the top,
but such men are quite rare and they are not reading this.) Each man
knows that the vast majority of women would find him sexually
horrifying, by which I mean that if they were somehow legally
necessitated to have sex with him, this experience would traumatize
them for life. Therefore each man will have to first hear about twenty
women say "no" to him before he finds one who says "yes", after which
he will spend the rest of his life telling that woman that she is
special among all women and it never could have been anybody else for
him. Having a woman tell a man that she doesn't want to have sex with
him should be no big deal for him: after all, this only establishes
that she belongs the vast majority of women on Earth. The only way a
woman can make her rejection really sting against a man who has any
common sense is if she can somehow pretend that her attitude is shared
by practically all women that the man will meet during his life, the
way you can see in the comment that I quoted above.
We don't
consider a man to be a "loser" if one or ten or even a hundred women
reject him but one woman of similar quality eagerly says "oh yes!".
This simple observation leads us to another problem that I see in the
usual mockery of those Western men who find themselves a wife from the
Third World. A common theme seems to be that since these men are losers
who can't convince any Western women to stoop down to date them or have
sex with them, these men have to settle for significantly inferior sex
and partnership than what a Western woman could have provided. For some
strange reason, this mockery is not considered as deviously
contemptible as, say, if I mocked somebody who can't afford to pay a
pittance of a few hundred bucks to go see a doctor. This blatant double
standard in when it is acceptable to mock losers both for being losers
and for being angry for the mockery and rejection that they receive
from the non-losers is rather galling. Which way is it, do losers who
are angry and want to change society to make it more suitable for their
needs deserve our sympathy and understanding, or our cruel mockery?
Hey, I could live with either option, but I won't let you have this
both ways depending on the needs of the moment.
Coming back to
the main train of thought, I would now simply like to know if the
Western women generally do believe that they are somehow better
than their brown sisters in the Third World. Because if they do believe
this, then they explicitly admit that they are racists. And if they
don't believe this, then they admit that a man doesn't really lose or
miss anything if he marries a Third World woman instead of a Western
woman, since both women are equally "good". So which way do you want it
to be? Again, I can certainly live with either option, but I would
certainly be interested to hear what women, especially the left-leaning
ones who are currently the noisiest against the idea of Western men
getting increase their dating prospects with globalization generally
think of this dilemma.
Lawrence Auster
has occasionally written about how the white Western liberals (as an
European, I don't want to give up this linguistic battle and will
therefore use the word "leftists") secretly consider themselves to be
superior to the brown Third World dwellers, the fact whose truthity you
can easily see if you just look at the leftist rhetoric and actions.
For example, it is clear that they can't even imagine themselves or
their descendants ever becoming dhimmis under a Muslim rule, nor can
they treat their beloved minorities as adults who should be responsible
for their own thoughts and actions. The attitude of Western women
towards marriages between white men and Third World women similarly
brings out in the open their (perhaps unthinking) racism, when they so
obviously consider the Third World women to be their inferiors.
So I saw a bumper sticker recently that said:
I hope the fetus you save grows up to be gay and proud
BTW, a vs an depends on the sound after it. Since European starts with a non-vowel (Y, as in Yuropean), I contend that you should write a European and a ewe.
Also, your posting is very nicely related to the comments on a previous post.
And those dusky maidens sure are nice.
Posted by Loki on the run | 4:57 PM
There's been a mild upsurge in discussion around the blogosphere on this particular issue lately, perhaps due to the Jaqueline Passey "I'm a high-quality woman" post. For starters, western men are finally beginning to realize that a marraige to a western woman, statistically speaking, has as much chance to make them miserable as to provide happiness. Most leftist women tend to already have a dim view of men--they can't stand the "macho" men that they want to rut with on an emotional level, but have no respect for the emasculated nancy-boys that they want to breed with. Thus, the western male is left with few options--he can subject himself to a life of servitude as a woman's creature, constantly belittled for any inadequacy, real or percieved, until the inevitable heart attack comes and she collects the life insurance check, or he can look outside the walls of western feminism to other countries where women tend not to condescend to men as worthless yard apes who are good only for the occasional sperm donation to create a child. (To be fair, our culture on the whole has contributed to this--how many television shows do we see a father who isn't an idiot, bumbler, psychopath, or all of the above?)
The real problem women, particularly feminists, have with men who marry women from other societies has little to do with latent racism, IMO, and more to do with a frustration born of the dim realization that some men have woken up to the fact that these foreign women will provide them with far more respect and humanity than the feminists could ever hope to muster towards the opposite sex, and the men will simply not play their game anymore.
Posted by Chris | 6:13 PM
Chris says:
The real problem women, particularly feminists, have with men who marry women from other societies has little to do with latent racism, IMO, and more to do with a frustration born of the dim realization that some men have woken up to the fact that these foreign women will provide them with far more respect and humanity than the feminists could ever hope to muster towards the opposite sex, and the men will simply not play their game anymore.
Well, it seems to me that the fundamental problem is that women and men carry different risks and differing capabilities while at the same time having essentially the same goals (even if they don't realize it).
Each has evolved to try to gets their genes into future generations, but have to deal with those pesky individuals of the other sex.
Women carry the means of reproduction, but they need men to impregnate them, and, crucially for humans, they usually need much male input (in the form of resources) if they are to raise their offspring to reproductive age and see them reproduce themselves.
So, one could expect women to try to bend society to the end of making it easier for women to reproduce without needing males (except for their initial investment). However, it doesn't suit me, an individual male, to be working to support other men's offspring, unless, that is, I get access to more women's reproductive capacity as a reward :-)
Life is never easy.
Posted by Loki on the run | 9:20 PM
It should perhaps also be pointed out that (some) males benefit from constant change, while most females and many males benefit from constancy and predictability ...
Posted by Loki on the run | 9:41 PM
"Western men marrying Third World women"
I just cannot believe what I'm reading here. I am just shaking with rage and indignation on an unimaginable scale.
We are all from the third world!
Don't you understand YOU JERK!
Planet Earth is the third planet from the sun so we are *all* third worlders (descendants of Thetans of course).
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Posted by Anonymous | 7:55 AM
You bet your sweet ass I am a turtle
What does this mean?
Posted by Anonymous | 9:49 AM